AMEN.This is one of the areas where I'm lucky. Since I play all my own guitar, bass, keyboard and drums I can do whatever the hell I want and no one can stop me
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AMEN.This is one of the areas where I'm lucky. Since I play all my own guitar, bass, keyboard and drums I can do whatever the hell I want and no one can stop me
Seriously: I'm trying to make a point by over-simplifying. I know that the world is much more complicated (thank god, even if he's a woman). But still. Listen to the radio. Bum-cha-Bum-cha.
How does that square with the fact that the majority of classical dance music is in 3/4?darrenn wrote:Modern music's reliance on 4/4 time and basic drum rhythms comes from the simple fact our bodies are symetrical and have two arms, two legs and two hands (amongst other things). Everything needs to be divisable by two - dancing evolved from walking that also is in 4/4 (or 2/2) time.
Darren
Or that Hindustani music doesn't even use Western styled meters at all, but counts (talas) of beats that alternate...5 of the most common of these use odd numbered beats:nuffink wrote:How does that square with the fact that the majority of classical dance music is in 3/4?darrenn wrote:Modern music's reliance on 4/4 time and basic drum rhythms comes from the simple fact our bodies are symetrical and have two arms, two legs and two hands (amongst other things). Everything needs to be divisable by two - dancing evolved from walking that also is in 4/4 (or 2/2) time.
Darren
cool. yeah, working with a different 'pallettes' of sounds can always help make things more interesting.pheeleep wrote:even without a drummer, in typical music you often end up with hand clapping, tambourine shaking, etc. that basically serves the same function(s) as a drumset would, just with less oomph.
I was listening to some "Air" songs this week ( I love their music ).. it was their earlier stuff ( premiers symptomes ) and noticed that they don't use drum kit sounds ( or very rarely ).. no snares.. no hi hats.. they rarely even use kick drums... The snares seem to be replaced by rim shots most of the time, or by other percussion sounds.. instead of a hi hat they often use shakes... the kicks are replaced by "ethnic" drum hits..
This made me want to experiment trying to make a tune or two that don't use a typical drum kit, but, rather, some other types of percussion sound ( hand drum, shakes, snaps, etc.. ) I seem to always immediately go for the drum kit when I start a song.. time to experiment a bit..
Premiers symtoms is a great album. There is some drum loops employed on that one, but I hear what yer talking about. One thing about "Air" is that the drums are usually way back in the mix and they are not really emphasized- at least in their early stuff, lately, they have been really bringing the drums forward, and I think their music has suffered somewhat...(coincidence????? maybe)pheeleep wrote:even without a drummer, in typical music you often end up with hand clapping, tambourine shaking, etc. that basically serves the same function(s) as a drumset would, just with less oomph.
I was listening to some "Air" songs this week ( I love their music ).. it was their earlier stuff ( premiers symptomes ) and noticed that they don't use drum kit sounds ( or very rarely ).. no snares.. no hi hats.. they rarely even use kick drums... The snares seem to be replaced by rim shots most of the time, or by other percussion sounds.. instead of a hi hat they often use shakes... the kicks are replaced by "ethnic" drum hits..
This made me want to experiment trying to make a tune or two that don't use a typical drum kit, but, rather, some other types of percussion sound ( hand drum, shakes, snaps, etc.. ) I seem to always immediately go for the drum kit when I start a song.. time to experiment a bit..
Seems unlikely to me that we only woke up to the fact that we have symmetrical bodies in "modern" times. Why is divisible by two suddenly all the rage? Was it only after quantum mechanics was born that dancers looked around and said, "Hey, two legs. Two arms. Two hands. Two feet! We can make this work!"darrenn wrote:It was just a theory behind why "modern" "popular" music has such simple rythms.
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